This topic is duplicated at Bicycle Education & Advocacy (https://www.northcountycycleclub.com/smf/index.php?board=9.0), and so it has been removed fom here. To view the duplicate discussion, please go to https://www.northcountycycleclub.com/smf/index.php?topic=3039.msg6911 (https://www.northcountycycleclub.com/smf/index.php?topic=3039.msg6911)